Why a Lack of 4K Blu-ray Drive on PS4 Pro Is Much Ado About Nothing

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When a company like Sony takes to stage to announce a product like the PS4 Pro, it’s quite easy to take everything presented at face value and deduce from that a certain set of opinions based on the product. From there, you can generally leave it to the internet to run with it and create the mockery that it’s so good at doing. Look no further than earlier on September 7th when Apple took to stage to announce the iPhone 7 which lacks a headphone jack.

Now mind you that Apple isn’t the first to do this with the Moto Z already shipping without said jack, and that not only does iPhone 7 come with Lightning wired headphones, but an adaptor to plug in any regular headphone in as well. But none of that matters, nor does it matter that in two years time, every phone will lack a headphone jack. Instead, the narrative is that iPhone 7 doesn’t support wired headphones.

Just a few short hours later, Sony found itself in a similar position with all headlines pointing to the lack of 4K Blu-ray drive on the PS4 Pro and what a shame because it just doesn’t matter.

Before I get too far, let me be clear. Would it have been nice to have a PS4 Pro with 4K Blu-ray? Of course it would. It would also be nice to have a PS4 Pro with dual HDMI outputs, Mini Display Port out, 4 USB 3.0, and a single USB-C for good measure as well. That version of the PS4 Pro would have also cost $949 and the story then wouldn’t be around all the amazing features it offers, but the ludicrous price point of the console and that Sony was going back to their PS3 era mentality.

Except that they’re not and that’s why the 4K Blu-ray drive is lacking. The PS3, when launched, was all about now. It was about what Sony needed to achieve (the success of Blu-ray) and everything else would be patched in later like 3D functionality and a proper PlayStation Store with robust multi-player functionalities. Eventually all those features would come to PS3 via firmware updates but it was easy to tell that many of them were tacked on and not in line with the original vision of the console.

On the other hand, when PS4 launched, it had a clear focus – a gaming machine with robust online functionality from day one and it delivered on that promise. From there, Sony built the foundation to grow its offerings like additional streaming options and services like Remote Play and PS Vue.

With PS4 Pro, Sony is revisiting the same playbook. What should the PS4 Pro be really good at from day one? Delivering enhanced visuals for those with a 4K set and improved framrate for those with an HDTV. From there, the machine then has everything in order for Sony to execute future game plans.

Could part of that day one vision been a 4K Blu-ray drive? Sure, but it also could have been the difference between their $399 price point and $449 and this is the crux of it all – nobody cares about 4K Blu-ray. Yes, you, the reader of SRN and numerous other tech sites might care but we’re the minority who exist in the hyper tech bubble.

As for most consumers, they’re still going to Best Buy and sometimes buying a DVD and sometimes a Blu-ray and even then, they’re really not. Chris Morris writing for Fortune:

 There’s certainly no denying physical media sales are declining in the U.S. Sales of DVDs and Blu-ray discs fell 12% in 2015 to $6.1 billion, according to the Digital Entertainment Group after an 11% drop in 2014.

Meanwhile, digital revenues rose 18% in 2015. 

Perhaps let me ask it another way – in 2016, what are the number of hours you spent watching new content through a streaming service versus buying them on Blu-ray? If you’ve been tuning into Stranger Things, Daredevil, The Leftovers, Game of Thrones, and the other numerous shows that are available only on a streaming service, chances are that you’re not even aware of how little time you spend using physical media.

But you’ll then argue that Blu-ray movies and especially 4K Blu-ray movie quality cannot be matched by streaming services that compress the hell out of the image. You’d be right, technically, but the simple truth is that consumers don’t care. What they want is ease of use with quality that’s good enough and with the upconverstion engines in most new TVs and new streaming algorithms, streaming quality is beyond good enough.

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And if the quality is good enough, what’s easier than clicking on an app and getting this selection:

Netflix – 4K HDR

  • A Series of Unfortunate Events
  • Bloodline
  • Chef’s Table
  • Hibana
  • Knights of Sidonia
  • Marco Polo
  • Marvel’s Daredevil
  • Marvel’s Iron Fist
  • Marvel’s Jessica Jones
  • Marvel’s Luke Cage
  • Marvel’s The Defenders
  • The Do-Over
  • The Ridiculous Six

Amazon – 4K HDR

  • Fury
  • Men in Black 3
  • Smurfs 2
  • After Earth
  • Pineapple Express
  • Chappie
  • The Amazing Spiderman 2
  • Salt
  • Hancock
  • Elysium
  • Transparent S1 & S2
  • Mozart in the Jungle S1 & S2
  • Man in the High Castle
  • Bosch S1 & S2 (on 3/11)
  • Red Oaks
  • Mad Dogs
  • Casanova
  • Highston
  • Z
  • One Mississippi
  • Edge
  • The Patriot
  • Good Girls Revolt

Now good luck going to Best Buy or even Amazon to find a similar selection of 4K Blu-ray movies – and when you do find a title you like, it will cost you on average $35. That’s almost the monthly cost of Netflix, HBO, and Hulu combined. No one wants to pay that anymore and further truth be told, no one wants to deal with the hassle of keeping a library of discs somewhere when all they need to do is launch their account on any device and instantly have access to a plethora of films to view, including 4K HDR.

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And just to further point out that this is where the market is going (and is already, to a degree), notice how every movie now becomes available as a digital download 2-3 weeks prior to its Blu-ray release.

When Sony was designing PS4 Pro, they had a choice to make. Include a 4K Blu-ray drive that in truth, would satisfy a very small part of the marketshare that’s only going to shrink (let’s be honest, physical media is not about have some resurgence) and in doing so, release a more expensive product that fewer people could afford. Or, they could release PS4 Pro which lacks a 4K Blu-ray drive but offers 4K streaming services and hit their desired price goal.

As it stands, PS4 Pro will ship a 4K Netflix app while an upgraded 4K capable YouTube app will come sometime later. As for Sony, you bet that they’ve already begun to build their own back catalog of 4K movies (seeing how the majority of 4K HDR movies through Amazon are from Sony Pictures) that will one day, with a flip of a switch, appear on the PlayStation Store.

Like Apple, Sony looked at the current landscape and built a device that’s not only compelling and powerful for today, but one that sees where the future is going and decided to embrace it. Ironically, what’s got both of them in ‘hot water’ is wireless.

Discuss:

Are you bothered by the lack of 4K Blu-ray on the PS4 Pro or do you think streaming is the future?

  • RbbrDcky

    A-MEN! Although I am a huge proponent of Ultra HD technology, I have no intentions of ever buying a 4K Bluray disc. It is neither convenient nor cost-conscious. The quality of the content on streaming services are perfectly sufficient, even on my 4K tv!

  • Thanks for the kind words. It’s about skating to where the puck is going to be, not where it is. 4K Blu-Ray is wonderfully but it’s costly and most certainly not the future

  • joemin97

    Yes I would have paid an extra $100 for a 4k Bluray Capability. I would prefer buying a Sony ES 4K BluRay Player but seeing how Sony gave us a excellent Bluray player in the PS3 I think they could have made it happen then drop the price in 6 months or so. I understand where they are coming from I watch Netflix in Ultra HD and it looks great but I can’t imagine how much better the 4K Bluray would compared to a Streamed version. I just pruchased two of the Sony 4K Media Players and that is where I am getting my Netflix 4K from at this moment. I understand Sony is going the safest route. Xbox One S has it but the internals don’t compare to the PS4 Pro. Hey they could add it in the future maybe in the PS5.

  • Phantasystar77

    This is one of the most pathetic pieces of Sony spin I have ever heard. Do you seriously believe that the majority of the countries the PS4 Pro is going to release in have internet capable of streaming 4K video? A lot of people have trouble streaming 1080p video never mind 4K. Besides not having the speed to do it there’s a little something called bandwidth caps. So, even if someone does have the right speed to stream 4K video consistently, how long do you think its going to be before they blow through their monthly cap of maybe 250-350GB a month? Between all the other data they use for things like internet, and so on we’re talking 2-3 movies tops. You also better hope you don’t have any games you want to download or big updates. Games today think nothing of throwing out 10-20GB updates like its nothing.

  • Phantasystar77

    You may not but a lot of other people do. Most people out there simply do not have the download speeds to handle 4K streaming and if they do then more then likely they have a strict data cap. Also, some people just like having physical media. Why should someone have to wait until a movie they want to see pops up in 4K on a streaming service. And do you seriously want to buy a digital movie where you’re at the total mercy of the company you bought it from? Sony themselves have a poor track record on this. If someone hacks your PSN account charges up a bunch of stuff then too bad. Not only will Sony not refund you, but if you decide to take it up with your credit card company then Sony locks your account completely and basically steals all the content you bought legit. They’ve been doing this for years.

  • Ok girl.

  • Scott Adams

    Guess I will have to buy a stand alone 4k player.

  • Marko Požarnik

    In countries with such bad internet connections they don’t buy original dvds or bluray discs at all. And they don’t buy psx because they would have to buy games when they can download illegal copies for their computer. The future is streaming, not physical media and because of this connection speed and prices will get better and better 😉

  • If what you say is true, then why is physical media sales down year over year and continue to decline while streaming increases each year? Be it music or video?

  • Phantasystar77

    No, even in the US a lot of places have spotty connections at best. Like I said, even if they did, a lot of places have strict data caps. Not all countries only pirate games instead of buying either. I seriously doubt Sony would release their system in a market where they knew the vast majority of people were just going to steal the games. You need to understand, companies make little to no money off the consoles themselves. They make it on the software. I do agree, connection speeds and prices will get better, but by the time they do in most areas the Pro and Slim will be obsolete. Heck, I recall that just after moving to Missouri in only 2007 I met more then a few people who only had dial up 56k because it was the best they could get. Nine years later most of those parts now can only get DSL. Maybe in 10 years (or more perhaps) or so when the vast majority have fiber connections and no bandwidth caps then yes I can understand that. Its a long ways off though and im concerned with what were going to need now. So let me ask you this, when was the last time you suffered under a bandwidth cap of like 200-250GB a month like most of the people out there? If your a gamer downloading constant updates, and digital games, how long do you think its going to be before you blow through that cap? Are you going to pay some cable company $10 extra if your about to go over your cap but want to watch a movie and don’t feel like waiting a few weeks? If we’re talking 4K streaming you may as well be paying an extra $20 just to watch that one movie.

  • You’re looking at it all wrong. There are billions of mobile devices and an entire generation of notebooks that have never known physical media and their owners have survived just fine. Data caps and bandwidth will change. I remember a time where I had to choose how many SMS I wanted my plan to have and they now give it to you for free.

    As for data caps, you used to buy a 100MB plan and today, you buy 30 or 40GB for your phone. As for your home, they either come with 200GB or something similar and all that will increase while at the same time, compression will only improve. Just look at the stuff Pied Piper is doing.

    I don’t doubt that some people can be left behind but which each transition in technology, it’s bound to happen right? Sony already sees the death of physical media. Just look at all their recent services, PS Vue (streaming), PS Now (streaming), Remote Play (streaming). And so while some people might not be able to jump on the bandwagon, they are betting that more people can and will get something extra out of it by doing so (convenience and better selection). If they are wrong, the market will tell them and the next iteration might have a 4K BD player. But if I were a betting man, I’d say 4K Blu-ray is the last hoorah we’ll see of physical media and even then, it will be a whimper.

  • Marko Požarnik

    It’s still cheaper than buying 4k blu-ray disc for 40 bucks 😉 But I got your point.

  • Sinjin

    That was truly some inspired spin-journalism there. Comparing the omission of a UHD player to a headphone jack is apples to oranges (or Apple to Sony). PS4Pro with a 4K player would have cost no more than $500 and people would have gladly paid it. I’m actually quite insulted by the quote ‘NOBODY CARES ABOUT 4K Blu-ray. A bit early to be making that claim since it’s only been out for two months. Anybody who spends $2000+ on a new TV clearly cares about what they are going to watch on it and compressed streaming Netflix ain’t going to cut it. What people don’t care about are redundant 4K apps on a PS4Pro since pretty much every 4K TV already has those built in.

    If Sony wants to rely on streaming media then why put a disc drive in at all. They claim nobody buys Blu-rays. Well I haven’t bought a physical PS4 game copy since they started offering the titles digitally, and I know a lot of others that are digital gaming only. In fact, the ONLY thing I use my PS4 drive for is movie-watching. They claim more people watch movies digitally over physical. I doubt that is true from all the empty Redbox machines every weekend and the thousands of copies that disappear off retail shelves every Tuesday. And even if Streaming was performing better than disc that’s only because there is no huge quality difference between BD and high-quality streams. On the other hand, 4K Blu-ray has finally given a reason for people to start buying media again.

    And kudos to the author of this article dated 9/9/16 for using a photo of Best Buy shelves taken TWO MONTHS ago. I assure you that section is filled top to bottom and is encroaching halfway into the 3D area next to it. If you want to show an example of POOR selection why not show the 4K Netflix bar that has the same 30 shows – mostly Netflix originals and stand-up and no good movies. What’s the last big movie on Netflix? Goosebumps!

    Bottom line is 4K Blu-ray isn’t going away. It’s only going to get stronger unless Netflix figures out a way to stream lossless video and ATMOS audio and then actually get some titles that people WANT to watch rather than the same stagnant library they’ve had for the past year. So if Sony doesn’t want my 4K movie money I’ll gladly give $250 to Samsung or Phillips so I can watch my SONY TV the way it was intended to be watched. Their refusing to include a 4K Blu-ray player won’t kill the format, but it will certainly affect console sales, both theirs and Xbox.

    There are over 5700 documented people in various gaming and tech forums who didn’t buy an Xbox One S just because it didn’t have ATMOS. They were all going to wait for the PS4Pro. Now, when the ATMOS patch releases next month guess who’s going to sell 5700 consoles in a matter of days. Companies need to learn to sell for the future and stop using narrow snapshot demographics to limit their demographic.

  • Giselle Brady

    You hit the nail on the head. No one gives a crap about it. No one is buying $35.00 UHD Blu-rays that aren’t even native 4K. They’re upscaled. My local Bestbuy is already slowly decreasing the physical movie dept. It will look like the music section pretty soon, one row.

  • jacksjus

    Can’t argue with this article. It never occurred to me just how little physical content I watch. In fact, I watch more tv shows than movies nowadays.

  • Shawn

    I’m sorry but when it comes to 4k it is a new format which means it is going to be hugh data, games will prolly be 60 – 100 gbs without updates, you are going to want a disk for the early years and and streaming movies will be pointless with database and the loss of fidelity but for pspro that doesn’t matter because it isn’t even a tru 4k machine not nativally hate all you want facts are facts …

  • spideynut71

    If PS4 “Pro” had 4K BR, and XB1S and/or Scorpio didn’t, you’d be writing a completely different article.

  • jwillj2k4 .

    hey whats the better value from 2016-2019, the xbox s or ps pro?

    http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/ultra-hd-not-always-4k/

    “Only Sony appears to have a genuine commitment to making movies in 4k. Here are that studio’s Ultra HD Blu-ray launch titles:”

    Sony is the only company to push true 4k blurays yet their own device doesnt support it.

    It will become the standard in a year and they dont have an all in one device, something weve had for the past 20 years with gaming.

  • AriesSiren

    Exactly I shopped for 4K movies on Blu-ray for my Xbox and the selection sucks. Streaming is the future. Lack of the uhd Blu-ray really doesn’t matter physical media has been declining for sometime especially for movies

  • BelAirBoss

    “nobody cares about 4K Blu-ray”
    Uhhhhhh….

    https://variety.com/2016/digital/news/early-ultra-hd-blu-ray-sales-numbers-exceed-disc-predecessor-1201804322/

    Child, please. The irony of what the author says is that the people who already have 4k uhd televisions are precisely the ones who are buying the 4k uhd standalone players, and also the ones who will be among the first looking at the ps4 pro, so again, just because the author doesn’t understand the draw of disc, doesn’t mean it’s not there.

    I will miss that 4k drive. You know why? I prefer the quality of disc, both visually and audibly. 4k uhd with Dolby Atmos or DTS:X via disc beats streaming 4k of the same every time. Plus, you get the additional features and bonus content with disc that you don’t get with stream. You don’t have to deal with compression, or internet downtime, or throttling depending on who else in your house is eating bandwidth. It’s just pure. As the director intended.

    If you have quality equipment, you want to feed it quality signals. That means for a videophile/audiophile, disc it is.

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  • BelAirBoss

    So will I. I was waiting for pro, but it isn’t going to happen. Xbox One S is a no go…no Dolby Vision, or bitstream Atmos and DTS:X is not where I want to go. And contrary to what the author said, I recently picked up a few UHD blu rays, The Revenant, The Martian, and Mad Max, and they were each about 21 bucks a pop. 35 dollars? Ok. If you say so. You’re shopping in the wrong places.

  • BelAirBoss

    Boy, you really need to stop repeating the “physical media sales are down” fallacy…..

    https://variety.com/2016/digital/news/early-ultra-hd-blu-ray-sales-numbers-exceed-disc-predecessor-1201804322/

  • BelAirBoss

    You can get 4k uhd discs for half that price. I bought The Revenant, The Martian, and Mad Max and they all were less than 24 dollars when I did so.

  • Soda Popinski

    Streaming has compression and is limited by bandwidth and data caps, physical media does not. If I’m going to invest in an expensive 4K TV you can bet your a$$ I wanna see it in the absolute best manner possible (meaning NO compression, thus no streaming), a physical drive is a must.

  • extermin8or2

    Probably have to get a standalone box then. Xbox one s has a 4k drive but one missing those other features you mention there.

  • extermin8or2

    Well as the xbox one 4k blu ray drive is missing featured like the dolby vision or bitstream atmos- I mean why even have the 4k drive if you dobt support key features that attract consumers interested in it.

  • Sinjin

    Bitstream audio coming in future Xbox patch. Stay strong.

  • John Tambanillo

    Maybe Sony can release a firmware update that will make PS4 Pro play 4K Blu-Ray…

  • jwillj2k4 .

    they could have done the exact same thing that microsoft did and leveled the playing field. stop trying to rationalize bad decisions.

  • jwillj2k4 .

    “Buy a 4k player” is Sonys Don Mattrick response.

  • jwillj2k4 .

    unfortunately no. the bluray laser is different.they would need a hardware update.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    I’m satisfied with my ps4, I don’t think I will buy a pro and I would not buy it even with a 4k Blu ray. But I thought the lack of it was a miss.

    But after reading your piece, I realize that I only bought like 10 Blu rays for my ps3, and most of them where at the beginning.

    I haven’t bought a single one since the lord of the rings came out. So I think in the end it was a smart move.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    He meant nobody in the grand scheme of things. He said there are people who does right after the nobody. But the ones that do are in the minority. And it’s true.

    And the winning argument is that the hours consumed via streaming are way higher than the ones on physical media. Go ask blockbuster if you think that’s a lie.

    Even if for some reason you are wealthy enough to only watch content on physical media, you would be not even in the minority, you can be considered an anomaly.
    (statistically I mean, I don’t mean any personal disrespect). And if you are wealthy enough, then you wouldn’t mind spending extra cash for a dedicated 4k Blu ray player.

    But the majority of people aren’t wealthy enough, So yeah, I think he’s right.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    If you had read the article and understood it, you’ll notice that the increase of 4k TVs sold is 65% while the increment in DISCS is only 6%.

    Meaning that less than 10% of the people buying 4k TVs are buying 4k discs.

    Meaning he’s right and the only argument beating the dust is yours.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Maybe, maybe not. Last Gen the 360 made the exact same call. And you go tell me if it got punished from it. And back then streaming was on diapers.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    So your brain can only get 1080 or 4k? NOTHING IN BETWEEN? You can’t distinguish between upscaling from 900p to 4k from upscaling from 2k to 4k?

    A little faulty,don’t you think? Sorry, facts are facts.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    If you had read the article and understood it, you’ll notice that the increase of 4k TVs sold is 65% while the increment in DISCS is only 6%.

    Meaning that less than 10% of the people buying 4k TVs are buying 4k discs. So you are actually wrong on this one.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    I suppose all those poor countries have tons of blockbusters with all movies on 4k…

    This is one of the most pathetic Sony attacks I have ever read.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Now list another 24 4k Blu rays available to purchase.

  • BelAirBoss

    How does what you said in any way, shape, form, or fashion relate to what I said? Exactly. Try again. You’re failing. Miserably. Good luck with that.

  • BelAirBoss

    LOL…let me explain this to you in plain English. At the time that article was written, 4k blu ray players had just been introduced to market. As of right now, there are only two for sale in the U.S.

    If you are so ignorant you don’t realize what that means, I’ll leave you to wallow in your own misery. Good luck with that.

  • BelAirBoss

    “Go ask blockbuster if you think that’s a lie”. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!! Ladies and gentlemen, case opened, case closed. “Blockbuster”. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • spideynut71

    Is that a rhetorical question, or are you trying to funny?? Of course MS got punished for lack of BR, among other things.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Not really, it sold very well despite the RRoD and lack of Blu ray. If not for the turn around Sony made with the ps3, the 360 would have sold close to a 100 million consoles.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Yes moron, blockbuster, do you get why they exist no more?

    If you are so ignorant you don’t realize what that means, I’ll leave you to wallow in your own misery. Good luck with that.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    So, other than an article you couldn’t read properly, you cannot contradict the fact that the majority of the people now prefer digital media over physical media?

    Figures…

  • BelAirBoss

    If your brain malfunctions in such ways that it doesn’t allow for you to realize physical media represents the vast majority of titles sold in both games and movies, you’re really not worth the effort. I’ll leave you to your mother. She’s used to your failings. LOL.

  • BelAirBoss

    “Go ask blockbuster if you think that’s a lie”. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!! Ladies and gentlemen, case opened, case closed. “Blockbuster”. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Lol dumbass! You needed to include gaming? No one here talked about gaming. But please, tell me about all those 4k Blu rays of GAMES You own, please enlighten us with your stupidity…

  • BelAirBoss

    Your mommy’s calling son. She prays for you nightly. She wants you to make something of your sorrowful life. Unfortunately, with your significant mental handicap, that will be nigh impossible. But keep trying little buddy. You’ll be a real boy someday. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Oh poor thing! I broke you! You are repeating your failures.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Envy? Because yours have up and dumped you as soon as she realized how stupid you are?

  • Phantasystar77

    I doubt Sony would be releasing the PS4 in countries that were so poor they couldn’t afford a blu ray. If someone can afford the system, im sure the cost of a 4K bluray isn’t going to break them. Its much more realistic to think someone would buy a 4K blu ray or 2 every so often then paying to go over their data cap every month. I’ve lived in the Branson, MO area and as of at least 2007 there were still people in parts of the area that could only get 56k internet connections That has pretty much gone away, but now many of these same areas can only get DSL. These people clearly have no use for 4K streaming, yet many of them would happily buy a 4K blu ray. Im lucky enough to have 100mps with unlimited bandwidth, but have friends who can’t afford to boost up to the unlimited tier. A few have 4K TVs, yet only stream an hour or 2 tops of 4K video because it kills their bandwidth. So the only real option to them is to buy a 4K disc. I also know people who enjoy collecting movies they can actually hold in hand.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Let me help you there, most countries don’t suffer from crappy companies like Comcast.

    Latin American countries like Mexico have the contracts for broadband internet limitless. So there’s no cap penalties.
    And 56k connections speed to exist since 2010.

  • BelAirBoss

    “Go ask blockbuster if you think that’s a lie”. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!! Ladies and gentlemen, case opened, case closed. “Blockbuster”. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • BelAirBoss

    Your mommy’s calling son. She prays for you nightly. She wants you to make something of your sorrowful life. Unfortunately, with your significant mental handicap, that will be nigh impossible. But keep trying little buddy. You’ll be a real boy someday. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    😮I did broke you 😵😵😵😵

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Broken moron!

  • BelAirBoss

    Your mommy’s calling son. She prays for you nightly. She wants you to make something of your sorrowful life. Unfortunately, with your significant mental handicap, that will be nigh impossible. But keep trying little buddy. You’ll be a real boy someday. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

  • BelAirBoss

    “Go ask blockbuster if you think that’s a lie”. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!! Ladies and gentlemen, case opened, case closed. “Blockbuster”. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Hey moron, tell me again your 4k movie list!

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Hey moron! Tell me.. What’s that honey? … I’m now bend over again…

    Your mom says hi!

  • BelAirBoss

    “Go ask blockbuster if you think that’s a lie”. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!! Ladies and gentlemen, case opened, case closed. “Blockbuster”. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • BelAirBoss

    Your mommy’s calling son. She prays for you nightly. She wants you to make something of your sorrowful life. Unfortunately, with your significant mental handicap, that will be nigh impossible. But keep trying little buddy. You’ll be a real boy someday. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    😳sad broken moron 😵😵😵

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    Mm yeah mmm your mom says hi again

  • BelAirBoss

    “Go ask blockbuster if you think that’s a lie”. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!! Ladies and gentlemen, case opened, case closed. “Blockbuster”. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • BelAirBoss

    Your mommy’s calling son. She prays for you nightly. She wants you to make something of your sorrowful life. Unfortunately, with your significant mental handicap, that will be nigh impossible. But keep trying little buddy. You’ll be a real boy someday. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    😵😵😵

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    She remembers you are so stupid you need things to be repeated.

    So she says hi

  • Phantasystar77

    So Latin America represents the entire world, esp when it comes to gaming systems? Also, Comcast is not the only ISP out there and not the only one with caps. In my area we have only Suddenlink, and Century Link.

    Are you also telling me Netflix is a better option then buying a physical movie I want? If I want to see a movie that just came out, I should wait maybe 6 months or a year and hope they pick it up? What if they have a movie I really like but later stopped playing it? Am I supposed to wait and hope they someday get it back?

    I also never said 4K blue ray would soar over streaming. I believe someday it will. However that day is not now since most of the world simply cannot handle 4K streaming due to speed and caps. Once fiber takes over then yes I agree it will. I do not like this since I prefer physical, but I can’t deny it will. That time likely won’t come for another 10-15 years though.

    Finally I never said the Pro isn’t for me. I simply think its a bad move for Sony. XBox One S sales actually jumped 111% on Amazon after the Pro announcement. Based off what I see a lot of people saying in comments all over the net, they simply weren’t that impressed with what Sony showed and that the real deal breaker was the lack of 4K blue ray support. As a real gamer I will still get the Pro. If I want to watch 4K bluray’s i’ll simply do it on my S, or the upcoming Scorpio.

  • Giselle Brady

    There isn’t a single UHD in the Amazon top 200. You’re wrong. If it was popular, you would hear or see about it. Beating intinial Blu-ray sales mean jack shit. The PS3 was 600. Try again, Jack.

  • BelAirBoss

    Right. What does the price of the ps3 have to do with anything? Then, just as now, there are other options. You’re making excuses….as your kind often does. Show you sales, you downplay sales because it doesn’t fit the weak narrative you’ve constructed in your primitive mind to suit your outlook. Typical.

    Equating make you said to the automotive industry…. Just because Tesla doesn’t sell the most cars on the market, doesn’t mean they aren’t in high demand, and it certainly doesn’t mean folks don’t want them. Either they can’t afford them at the moment, and are waiting for the prices to come down. Or, as in the case of 4k blu ray players, even though 4k tv’s and 4k blu rays players are selling well, they are not so prevalent in the market to place as a top seller, just like the Teslas. Also, there are only two available on the market in the U.S. for consumers to buy. Also, more movies on 4k blu ray disc need to come to market, and they will.

    This much should be obvious to anyway with a functional cerebrum and cerebellum. Good luck with your infirmities.

  • Hey gents, I appreciate you being passionate about the topic but trust me when I say, it’s not worth dragging your moms into for internet flame war purposes. It’s just a console and life will go on. I always welcome debate and decent from my opinions but please take this as a warning that this isn’t a place for open war about things that don’t matter in the grand scheme of life.

  • QUIMICOMORTAL

    No, but it represent like 25% of the world population. Which is far more than “your areas “.
    I didn’t say only Comcast did I? I only put an example.

    Of course not. If you like to buy physical media, nothing will be a better option… Except for the price and comfort, to you that may not be enough, but the point of the author is that for many people it is.

    And I’m telling you right now, streaming media has taken over physical media, not 10 to 15 years, not six months, now that has already happened! With the only possible exception of video games (which just started last Gen in consoles). But series, music, magazines, news outlets, movies are being consumed more by digital means.

    The real outcome of Sony ‘s new console (which didn’t excited me that much) will only be seen after the console releases. But regardless of its success, I do agree with the author that those like you that physical media are in the minority.

  • Khaled

    I will start streaming movies once they start providing high bit-rates and uncompressed audio, until then ill just hang on to my physical media discs

  • Bah the critics

    when PS4 launched, it had a clear focus – a gaming machine with robust online functionality from day one and it delivered on that promise.

    Name the amount author.How much can a company pay you to lie to this very extent??

  • Typically it’s between $8k-$10k, depending on the traction it gains

  • Bah the critics

    That’s Insane but also not very true.Seeing Sony’s status they would go Bankrupt if you wrote 10-15 articles.

    Everything aside,it was a joke. Apologies.

    But go above and see why I said it- PSN is not an ONLINE ROBUST network.It is far from being a stable one forget robust.Every other time its down.PS store is the same. Doesn’t let me PAY for games I want to OWN.And then there is the ridiculous Load times.The biggest issue is THE PRICE INCREASE without any good games monthly or improving the servers. IF you are not facing these I don’t know which PSN are you using.

    Also look up the comments once. Physical Media MATTERS